Hello friends, I'm Amanda Barr, and I'm Rebecca Lou Brennan,
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Hey friends, and welcome back to a very special episode of the Dance Principles
United podcast. because we're here in person, which is so so nice,
isn't it, Beck? It is so fun, it's very pink.
So jump on YouTube and see how pink it is.
But we're really trying to get our YouTube subscribers up.
Please help us. We need to get from at least three to maybe seven
by the end of the episode. So if you could help,
that would be wonderful. It's time to watch YouTube,
you know. I don't actually know. My kids watch a lot of YouTube,
I have to say. Yes, I love it. I have YouTube banned on my
home. Yeah, I've heard that. Yeah, it's really weird. I'm very anti-YouTube.
It's funny, but anyway, these are the things we thought we'd do as a
bit of a special episode today because we're in person and it's a bit
more fun. We put a question out to our tribe members about
what would they ask us and what kind of like unfiltered advice would they
like and one of the questions that came back from one of our tribe
members was, what were the turning points in your business?
So we actually haven't discussed this yet, facts concerned because we haven't discussed it.
but I feel like it's a good thing to sort of say it's straight
live on air and like the real turning points that got your business
to the success it is now. I'd love to know do you want to
we've got three each. We chose three each and normally Amanda and I before
we start the episode we have a little chitchat about that but she was
just like let's just go with it. So this could be super random guys
I hope you enjoy. I want to hear the turning points because pause is
a huge success these days. It is a financially
incredible business. It produces amazing talent.
You have got so many incredible staff and students and all of those things.
But it wasn't always like that. It wasn't.
It's been 20, how many years of being a studio owner?
22 Amanda. 22 incredible.
So there was obviously turning points in your journey.
So tell me what is turning point number what?
Well, I've told this story before, so I'm sorry if our listeners have heard
it before, but the biggest turning point definitely in my business was when I
had a mentor and I was doing one-on-ones with them in the city,
so I would get on the train and I would You cut your train?
Wait, this is the turning point of the photo. You were on a train?
What happened to Bootsie Beck that refuses to get on trains?
I didn't know where I went on a train. I don't actually can't even
remember, because you're right, I would never go on a train,
but I actually didn't want to try that's not the turning point okay that
is a big turning point so I
would get on the train I would go to this one on one that
went for an hour I would cry for the entire hour because my business
was legitimately making zero money I was working 24-7 I was single
mom and life was just so overwhelming and crazy and so I would go
there and cry and he would give me some great advice and then I'd
go home and just keep running and I wouldn't actually do pretty much anything
that he told me. So my biggest turning point was sitting down with him,
I think the fourth of his time, can I also say I could not
afford these sessions? I know it was $500 an hour at the time,
which for me at the time was an insane amount of money. And this
is what we're talking 12, 15 years ago, maybe. Yes.
And so he sat down and he said to me,
and I appreciate it so much to this day,
Beck, you can keep coming here and paying me $500 to sit and cry
and win, you can complain and be a victim, or you can actually f******
do some of the stuff I'm telling you to do, and then things might
change. Bing! Oh! Beck thinks maybe I should actually f****** do something.
So there I went back and actually did this shit it was telling me
to, and the biggest thing you taught me to do was grow from the
bottom up, and I talked to our clients about this all the time,
so I completely changed what I was doing, because we've always had high end
seniors, always, and I was always putting that out there,
right, because I thought that would appeal to everyone that we had these incredible
crazy dancers that could do insane things.
Yeah, that actually doesn't apply appeal to a preschool parent.
I don't know if you know that or not Amanda or I've talked about
a few times. So completely changed,
really just promoted preschool, non-stop and was obsessive with it.
And I did lose some seniors in doing that.
Because I really was just constantly posting preschool,
little kids, preschool, little kids. And probably some of the seniors go,
oh, this is like the attention on them.
they don't love when they don't have the attention anymore,
you know, or she doesn't care about us or she cares about us,
those little kids, like there's all of that, right? That definitely happened.
Yeah. And I have to say it's probably only just now that I feel
like I've got that massive, massive senior team back again.
And it's a balance, right? It is a balance.
But we went from 12 preschoolers.
I think over five or six years to 300.
It's incredible. It's insane, right? It's incredible. And I love that story because For
those of you who don't know back, she is a little bit stubborn.
No. I am not. And so many of us are,
right? Like, this is the way I've always done it,
so I'm going to keep doing it. And obviously, that was probably your
thought process when you would go to this mentor,
you would go in there and go, oh no, but I know what I'm
doing. I know what I'm doing, I'll get it right. It'll work soon,
it's someone else's fault. Is that right?
Putting words into your mouth, but that's what we see sometimes.
I was such a victim. It was ridiculous. Yeah, it's like, hey,
that's because that are the studios doing this or it's because are that once
I get rid of that mum or once I, you know, it's because these
parents don't understand or whatever, it's like that playing that victim.
But actually going, maybe this isn't working,
maybe I do need to try something else. Yes. Do you know the funniest
one that I always hear people say and I probably used to say it
myself is the studio down the road has all the preschoolers?
Yeah. Like, have you ever f****** looked at how many preschoolers are actually in
your area? Yeah. So when you look at that, that's just saying that is
so ridiculous. Like, you could easily have seven studios with 300 preschoolers each
in pan-rath, and you would still not have absolutely all the preschoolers.
It's like there's so many kids. So many kids.
Absolutely. I love that. All right, that was a great turning point one.
So you decided to actually do some of the shit and do so about
your business. Hey, are we going through my three or ones?
I think so. No, do you want to go to mine? What do you
want to do? Yeah, give us a choice. Let's go to your first. All
right. My first turning point,
um, when I,
for those who don't know the back story, I opened my studio when I
was 15. I was in year 11 at school.
Do you know that's Beere's Age now? Yes. Yes,
I do. And I didn't just start a school hall studio.
I bought a studio that had already been operating.
Uh, it had a premises, it had a lease on the main street of
which is a tourist town and it's expensive.
We had, I think, to start with five staff,
straight away because I inherited them, so like five adult staff.
So I'm not talking about like I started teaching a few dance classes in
a local hall, like I owned a studio at 15.
And I guess my turning point was making
a big, conscious choice to prove everybody wrong.
To prove people wrong that told me I couldn't do it.
So people told me that doesn't sound like you at all me. No,
I've changed so much since I was 15.
So people when I was 15 said to me, well you can't do that
and do school and I'm like, f*** you,
watch me. So I used to,
I wouldn't do it at lunch time because it was too loud at lunch
time. So I had pretend to need to go to the bathroom and go
and return in quarries in the bathroom in the middle of English class And
do all of those fun things And so I would
prove people wrong through that I was then told I had to you know
I did well in school without really trying.
I was that kid like it well, you know school was You know came
pretty easily to me. I'm trying to say this in a nice way And
you know I got into uni as you do and people like we've got
to go to uni you know that was my parents. You got into uni
and none of my parents went to uni so it was like a big
big like you got into uni you've got to go to uni you've got
to you know do the law degree you've got to do the commerce degree
you've got to do whatever that is right so went to uni did you
yeah I dropped out I didn't finish my uni because
I was doing so well in my studio so the same thing I didn't
want to be there so I wanted to prove people wrong but I go
I don't need this degree, just watch me.
I did my degree. I'm like, I'm making so much more money than I
ever would. And then I want to prove people wrong that dance wasn't a
real job. You know, I remember my father and law sort of saying to
me, so, you know, what are you going to do when,
you know, you grow up Amanda? Like it, I was like 24 at the
time. My studio was doing huge numbers.
Like, you know, and I'd be like, no,
this is what I'm doing. And I was like,
I'm going to show you, like, you know, I'm going to show you I'm
going to make more money than you do. I'm going to do all those
things and I don't know Maybe that was my turning point was just being
so stubborn I have to prove everybody wrong.
Is that weird? No, I love that. I love that And like I feel
like that's probably being a driving force for you the whole way through Think
about it because it is interesting like I had very similar thing growing up
mum and dad Well dad especially wanted me to go to uni.
I was in a selective high school I was, you know,
very smart, they were very excited for me to go to uni and I
think at the time as well, like we're similar age,
you know, at the now it's not such a thing that everyone has to
go to uni, but there was a period of time where it's like uni
is life. You know, like if you're smart enough,
you need to go to uni and get a degree so then you can
get a good job and you'll get paid more and all of that kind
of stuff. Yeah, I agree. But yeah,
I didn't want to be there either,
did the same thing, went there for a little well hated it.
Yeah, you know, and just wanted to do what I was doing now really.
I love that. Such a good, okay, what's your second turning point?
I think the next one I'm going to talk about is probably
wanting my own house, and I think,
you know, this happened pretty late in life for me,
but it was COVID time.
I remember. single mom. I feel like that's when we became really close actually.
COVID time single mom living by myself in COVID.
If there were any single moms out there, I totally resonate.
That was so f***** up.
Because normally as a single mom,
you can go complain at a coffee about your kids to someone,
but when you're stuck in a house 24-7 with a two-year-old and a seven-year-old
it was just there was there's no one to talk to.
There's no one to bounce off. Yeah,
it was crazy. Oh, it was horrendous.
Anyway, I think that was the biggest growth time for me and I think
that was the time when I really decided that I wanted to be successful
in life in general and that I wanted to earn enough money
to be able to have a house for myself and buy my own house
which was unheard of before that for me, like I never thought that would
have happened. So I think what's the turning point of this?
Just making smarter decisions,
because it's so true that we sacrifice so much as studio owners because
we want to do it for the kids. And it's not that I don't
want to do stuff because it's just stop making stupid decisions.
Like, did I really need to spend $2,000 on those brand new
spanking props? Or could I have just used something that we had before?
You know, you just, I just knew that to get that money together,
I had to make some smarter choices, if that makes sense.
And really made dreams in and around that.
And really thought about also extra revenue that I could make in the studio
to make that extra money. So I feel like that,
and then I did, I bought my own house at the end of COVID.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, at the end of COVID maybe.
Absolutely. some of our listeners might not have known,
but you know, you don't house us previously, but with partners.
No, I didn't own with the partner. Oh, yeah.
Okay. But you bought this by yourself as well,
which was a big thing, you know, as a single woman and all of
that kind of stuff as well. I did. I did. Yeah.
And I think that's so impressive. Well,
it's surrounding itself with the right people as well.
And I've talked about this so much on the podcast and I'm going to
harp on about it today. But, you know, I always say to you guys
out there, think of the top three people in your life right now.
Are they building you up or dragging you down? And if they're dragging you
down, you are never going to achieve what you can in life.
And if those three people are building you up,
then you can achieve, I truly believe any of us can achieve absolutely anything
in life if you are surrounded by the right people.
And if you're not surrounded by the right people, surround yourself with the right
people. Because it is such a game changer,
don't you think? Absolutely, absolutely. I love that so much.
So, own house, wishing to get that.
And look, if you're you're in it out there and you sacrifice sacrifice sacrifice
that's that's amazing but at the end of the day someone once said to
me you know are your students it really gonna be so it's morbid
but like are they gonna be there at the end of your life with
you and the answer is no like they're gonna be there in five years
maybe not yeah exactly and you know and I know that we're changing lives
and I totally get that but you need to change your own life first
you've You've got to look after your family and your own life first and
not sacrifice so much of that because you will end up resenting a studio
and I was getting to that point where I was resenting my studio.
Absolutely, I love that because I do completely agree with you,
your personal family are the ones that are still gonna
be there no matter what. That's right. Whereas your students,
they're not gonna be there in 10 years. They're not gonna be there in
15 years, they're not gonna be there in 50 years. like, you know,
you may have impacted their life, but they're not the ones that are there
with you and so don't ever sacrifice your own family's happiness for someone
else's, I think that's a big thing. Absolutely,
absolutely. That was a deep one. It was a bit deep.
It was better be good next, that's all I can say. My turning point,
I'm gonna have to look up my phone because now I've gotten distracted by
that and completely forgotten. But my turning point number two
was, oh, okay.
So, probably some of this is hard without big back stories,
but my turning point number two was when we opened our second
studio. We opened our second studio at the beginning
of 2015. Yeah,
it was like for the January 2015. And we actually purchased
one of the largest commercial properties in Shell Harbor.
And it was a huge purchase.
It was very, very big. It was also very run down.
It's a huge commercial property. We bought it at the time.
Oh, and I might know it was just over a million at the time,
but which at the time, like I know everybody,
like, you know, he can't really buy much of a house at these days
for less than a million, but it was huge amounts of money.
and I was only, I can't do that mask,
what was I, but it was, I must have been 30,
probably 29 or something when I got in.
And it was a huge investment and it was a big thing for
us. It also then needed hundreds and hundreds of thousand dollars worth of work
on top of it. And so we decided to open this as a second
studio. We decided to buy this commercial.
I also had a baby in the March of the year.
So we opened the studio in February. I had a baby in March.
Nathan also quit his job at the same time.
So there was a lot going on at that one time.
And we went all in. We were like,
you know what, we're going to make this work. Oh, actually, and we were
also in the middle of building our dream house as well,
which at the same time was all happening at the same time because we
decided by building this house that we couldn't a Ford because
we hadn't found the right studio to buy and then this studio came up
like whilst we're all happening in the middle. So it all was happening,
right? We moved into our house, let's get the date straight,
we moved into the house in September, we bought the building around the same
time, moved, you know, started classes in the February,
I had a baby in the march and I think we did his job.
So it was all happening at this time, right? And financially it was rough,
like it was rough on, you know, a just 30-year-old kind of thing.
And I think that
was a big turning point, because I was like, f*** me,
this isn't a hobby anymore. This is our family's soul source
of income. You know,
Gigi was born and she was my second.
Nath didn't have a job anymore. He was on like paternity leave,
but like, you know, we'd lost that money. And we were like,
we've gotta make this f****** work. This is not a hobby.
I'm now, you know, running two businesses,
one with a huge mortgage, one with a huge rent.
You know, we had at the time, I think,
like, 28 staff or something like that was before I,
like, really pulled my staff thing back.
And we're like, we have a lot of people to support. I've got to
f****** make this work. And I think that was a big turning point.
And I guess the lesson and in that is,
well, that sometimes risk does equal reward.
Totally agree with you. And I also, you know,
I think there's something to taking the safety net off.
I'm a big believer, like, you know, I don't want to ever encourage anyone
to make, you know, too risky financial just like,
no, things that's not what I want. However, I do think that if you
have a safety net, sometimes you'll just keep relying on that safety net.
If you have another job and you're like,
oh, I don't need to pay myself from the studio because I have another
job, then how are you ever gonna grow your studio?
How, if that was your goal, well, like you don't need to because you
actually have a safety net. Whereas if you took that risk and quit that
job and were like, I need to make this work,
then you'd probably put the work in to make it work. I'm a big
believer in that. I listen to a lot of Gary Vee and he's all
about When you're young before you have kids or even if you do have
kids like I did at the time like just go all in Yeah,
because yeah, like otherwise you're not never gonna make it work It's just a
side hustle. I think you have to take risk to get reward sometimes like
and as Nathan would say calculated risk Like we're not telling anyone to be
stupid out there, but I've definitely been stupid But I think sometimes
you do have to take that risk and go all out and I know
we always talk about this but like us with Expo,
like that risk with Expo is so huge.
It's so huge. Like, it's still a massive risk every year.
Absolutely. But it's been such a success.
And I think, you know, it's important to do that.
And it can be a turning point when that happens.
Absolutely. And I just think, you know,
sometimes you've just got to make it work. And I've never worked harder than
I did once we decided we were building that business
by buying that property. because I was like,
this isn't a hobby anymore. This is a business that has to make big
money. And it started making big money because I made it work.
Otherwise, I could have just kept going, oh yeah, this is cool,
we're making some money, it's fine, we'll just keep it as it is,
right? Yeah, you know what I always think when I'm like gonna take a
big risk. I don't know if this is how you think or not.
But I am always like, what was the lowest point in my life ever,
right? So the lowest point in my life was leaving a house
with two suitcases and two babies, and having nothing.
Like I had a car, I had the suitcases,
obviously I had my business, but that was it.
That was it, we didn't even have furniture, we had nothing.
So I'm like, okay, I got through that.
Yep, that's the worst, it sucked,
but it also made me the best version of myself.
So if I didn't go through that, I wouldn't be here with you now.
So that was the worst that could ever have happened.
So, okay, if I go back there,
I know I can do it. No, I have to completely agree.
And look, my story isn't nearly as incredible as yours in
terms of, you know, that kind of thing. And I'm lucky that I have,
you know, families, help and support and all of those things.
But I always go, what's the worst that could happen? The worst that could
happen would be I'd lose my house. Well,
that sucks. I'll start renting something that's cheaper.
I can live at a two bedroom apartment with my kids.
That's fine. Yeah. Whatever. That's what I always think.
Maybe not with you need dog though. My dog would not be in the
two bedroom apartment, my huge, ridiculous size dog,
but I always think what's the worst?
Like I would still be happy. You know what? I would be happy as
long as my family were all safe and healthy and all of those things.
Like life would go on. I'd just have to give the dog a new
house, but have to re-house the dog.
You have to post a photo of this dog.
I know. I don't think I've even posted it on socials already.
thing. I'm not, I'm not that person. You do love that dog the other.
Oh, there's moments. You do love your dog.
Sorry to say that. It's a very large doggo on the side.
I don't know what you're thinking with getting such a big dog,
but yeah, well, things that you do.
Here are. Here we are. Okay, this is off topic.
Comment is now the topic of conversation.
I feel like I do need to share a picture of my dog and
show all the things. But all right, have you got one more turning point?
I do. Yeah. This is the one that I said to you is a
bit contrapers. You never stop it.
So we've always been like a high-end school as
far as getting heaps of kids on contract etc as you know.
Yeah but more and more and probably more and more as baby got into
the comp world which has only been the last two years.
I have really gotten my school into the comp world like hecticly.
Yeah. I don't know if it's a good turning point in my business or
a bad, yeah, to find out.
Yeah, to find out. But it is a big turning point.
Let me tell you. So, you know, I said to our STC or
Tribe Members this morning, I can't remember which we had before.
We had two Q&As this morning with our members,
that we've just hit 70 private lessons kids in
our studio. That is crazy,
like all doing competitive dance. Of course,
I want the kids to be successful, so,
you know, we are trading them really high and I have insane high-end teachers
who are freaking incredible. Yes. And the kids are doing really,
really well. We've just split our troop for the very first time in 22
years, to have a elite kind of company and then a not-so-a-let
tribe troop. So it's all happening,
am I? Yes. But I do think this is a turning point because and
I think financially it's been a big turning point to because obviously I'm putting
a lot more money into the teaching stuff.
You've got to invest in that to be a high income. There's investments involved.
Yeah. So it's a turning point all the same whether
I think it's the right turning point. I don't know and that's kind of
the controversial part, right? Because it's hard to know until you delve
into some of these dreams. And to you on the other side of it,
maybe. Exactly. But it's also too late
to go back now. I was saying to that one of our STC members
this morning was saying, I just I feel a bit lost in my business
at the moment back. I'm not sure whether I just want to keep going
down the road. I'm going or do I want to go into a more
competitive kind of realm? And And I'm like,
just be careful what you wish for. And I bought Katrina on,
who's an incredible studio owner. I'm absolutely.
In Studio Growth Club, who has over 1,000 students in her school and has
kids that have gone on to professional careers who does no competition or one
comp a year, maybe or something like that. Just very minimal.
And then we have really high-end comp studios,
like Ash for Ignition who crushes all the things and wins all the comps.
And you know, it's very different business.
It is. And it's got to be the studio of your dreams.
right and I think that's so so important you've got to go for
whichever path kind of works for you but I love that like we're we're
here in a real time right and look we've always had comp kids but
never not to the same well the levels so much higher now let's just
start with that yeah absolutely and it's not that I haven't had winning kids
through the years but I've never had the volume and not that solo
comp scene as well where about the tiaras and the I don't feel like
that's quite a new-ish thing for you where it had done more and more
of that with that volume. Do you know where I've gone through ebbs and
flows when we first started the business I did have that definitely and the
kids that were doing it which was a small my need amount were winning
all the things back then Sidney's effort was the big thing yeah and Caitlyn
for example you know Caitlyn she used to win in every year up against
80 kids. So I did have it. Then I think when I had kids,
I kind of eased off because I was like,
you can't have babies and also be going to a comp every weekend.
And it was too crazy. So we really eased off and then now we've
emptied up to the ends degree.
Just say the word. I love it,
I love it though. We're hearing it real time. We'll be able to see
the big turning points of next year's life here on the podcast.
And we'll see how it goes. But yeah, I agree. It's a turning point.
I'm super excited. I get to come and have a bit of a check
out this afternoon We're gonna drop around to both the back studios and have
a look this afternoon's been a while since I've been at pause I'm excited.
It's really done up now. We'll put some stuff on our socials.
We'll most definitely anyway Tell me your last one.
Oh, now I feel like my last one's been a downer again when we've
been talking about fun things again Because it kind of goes back to my
last one Um, and Or do we want to finish on a
downer? No, I feel like I'm ready. I'll make it a downer and upper
I guess what we do. So probably should have continued it on from my
last story with this flow of this podcast.
It's not so great, but that's okay. We've got good stories.
We've got good stories in here. So I was talking about when I bought
my business, and we went all in, we financially like,
we're talking about we couldn't get enough loans from different people.
We were loaning from I think four different people including like those
interesting type loans for homes and stuff like that to try and get it
happening because we were so stretched financially.
And then we had the great situation that someone
took money for a floor, a chief floor that we were having imported from
America. And yeah,
they took the order knowing that they'd already gone into receivership.
So completely just didn't deliver on the order,
didn't even order our order from the States,
like a guy from Sydney, and it took off and it was like $40
or $50,000, which we did not have to spare.
And the problem was we still needed that floor, so we had to spend
it a second time. So that all happened at the same
time, as I said, you know, I had a baby,
so obviously I had to replace all my teaching hours and all of that
kind of stuff for a period of time as well. So we kind of,
that all happened at the beginning of 2015.
We kind of got about or two-thirds of the way through 2015 and the
savings had dried up, everything had dried up and
I was in that kind of thing which I'd never been in my life
because I've, you know, I've told the story,
I've started my career at 15 and it's always done really well for me.
I've always done quite well financially from it and I was like,
I do not have enough money for groceries this week,
I do not have enough money for nappies and everything was maxed I'm like,
oh, I don't fly. What am I gonna do?
Like, I'm like this, like literally,
I only have a few more nappies in the house,
I'm f*****. But, you know, living in this beautiful house with way too many
assets, with a great car, and like all of that kind of stuff,
with this huge studio, like life looks peachy,
but then the bank account doesn't look. You know,
we'd built this house in Minimura, which was so beautiful and so lovely.
It's all my memory house. And it was gorgeous and all of this and
I'd had the nicest of everything put in and there was like can't pay
the bills a year later and I think that was a big turning point
for me like you know I had I am as I mentioned before I'm
like here I called my parents and you know they paid for the groceries
and it was fine that week but I was mortified and
I said to my mum like this is a one-time call I'm not calling
you again like I'm like I need two hundred dollars like this is what
I need this week but this is not happening again.
And my parents were like, don't worry about it, it's fine. They couldn't have
cared less. They were like, don't worry about it.
I'll give you more. I'm like, absolutely not. I am taking $200 and that
is it. I am not going to call you again.
And I was so adamant.
I went home to Nathan. I went, we need to put on more classes.
We need to do this. We need to do that. Where can I find
additional revenue because I am not making that phone call ever again?
And I think that was such a turning point because I've never made that
phone call again. I was never going to ask for that again because I
was literally, they're like, don't worry about it. I was like, no, no,
this is this is it. I am not asking for it again.
And, you know, I think sometimes those turning points,
they're just like in your own got a hustle and or something,
but I was like, no, this is the line. This is where I stand
and I am not doing this again. Regardless of,
you know, and sometimes, you know, you also make decisions that aren't a turning
point in your life. But for me, that was just like I was absolutely
mortified and I was like I'm not doing this again.
I'm gonna hustle even though I already had been.
I was like no I'm gonna hustle even harder. I'm gonna just work.
I love it and it like it takes sometimes it takes for us to
do that to hustle but then you didn't stop hustling and I think sometimes
studio owners will hustle a little bit because they're desperate and then I'll chill
and then I'll hustle chill whereas like you then kept hustling and you're stepping
it up and I think that's a good learning for everyone from that.
Yes, like the hustle never stops guys.
It does, that's a really great point and people always go,
hey, when does that, like, I don't know,
and there's all these things about like don't buy into hustle culture and blah
blah blah, and like we can call it whatever you want to call it,
but hard work is hard work and it gets results.
And I don't believe in killing yourself for it.
You know, we talked about before, it's your family that's going to be there
at the end of the day, Not your students.
However, hard work doesn't stop. There is no moment that I can think
of in that last 10 years that I've stopped working hard.
And sometimes it's about working smarter as well.
There's both ends to it and you learn lessons and you learn shortcuts along
the way. But you've got to keep working hard to have success.
Yes. Well, any successful person,
and I say this to my students and my own kids all the time.
Like, you know, Beyonce's not just there,
you know, because she's not a hard worker. She's probably one of the hardest
workers on earth. And I think that's where there's this,
you know, with Instagram and all the things that people just think that it's
just handed to you, and that's not the case.
It is anyone who's successful in life is working that gut to the end.
Absolutely, absolutely. But I think there's been great podcast.
If you want to know some shortcuts on succeeding and growing faster because
I do think there are shortcuts to hard work, please drop a message we'd
love to talk to you about how we can help you with some shortcuts
because there are totally ways to, you know,
bypass some of the lessons that we learned the hard way and,
you know, skip a few steps and jump ahead.
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We hope you enjoyed the podcast. That was a fun one.
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